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I TALK W/HAN VANDERHART ABOUT ABLATION ON OF POETRY PODCAST

You can listen to me talk w/ Han VanderHart about Ablation on Of Poetry Podcast RIGHT HERE . I read the poem "Relentless" and we discuss relentlessness, maximalism, that time I got to see Harryette Mullen read from Urban Tumbleweed, the mirror cinquain, drafting poems in bars on index cards, etc. etc. etc. Heartfelt thanks to Han for the existence of this podcast and inviting me to be a guest on it. Go buy Han's books; they're beautiful. Warm thanks also to my brother Mike who bought me a proper microphone for the recording of the podcast as a surprise gift and who would hate me even mentioning such a thing. Look, I found the index cards I drafted "Ablation" on. Like yes, I forgot where I put them. Were they in an old cigar box? Yep.

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